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Grammar Police! 
28th-Jun-2011 11:28 pm
WWED
I didn't learn much about English grammar in school: Most of what I know I learned at my mother's knee, and the rest I picked up in my German class. So I really shouldn't be surprised.

I was listening to someone talk today. Seems she's a High School English teacher. But she's planning on cutting back on that -- become a substitute teacher. "Less papers to grade."
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29th-Jun-2011 10:50 am (UTC)
I literally flinched when I read that.
30th-Jun-2011 10:49 pm (UTC)
A bit later I was asked "what do you think about her ..." (the reason I was there) and my immediate response was, "I don't know -- I can't get past that less".
29th-Jun-2011 02:15 pm (UTC)
Gah!
1st-Jul-2011 04:06 pm (UTC)
I rather suspect that your schooling was more comprehensive than mine. I suspect that more than half the people I encounter daily, on reading that, would say, "Yeah? So? Makes sense to me!"
4th-Jul-2011 02:38 am (UTC)
Yeah, probably.
29th-Jun-2011 08:16 pm (UTC)
Fewer students need to be exposed to her.
30th-Jun-2011 10:50 pm (UTC)
Yep.
29th-Jun-2011 10:27 pm (UTC)
Not sure I want to post my thoughts on that statement. Although I have had substituting jobs where I did need to grade papers.
30th-Jun-2011 10:51 pm (UTC)
Yabbut....
30th-Jun-2011 01:16 am (UTC)
Having recently finished all my grading for the school year, I can see the temptation to treat "papers" as a mass noun, but... :-)
30th-Jun-2011 10:53 pm (UTC)
Yeah... but she could have said "homework". Or corrected herself. I'd just left my ESL class. I sometimes want to teach the students "well, this is _right_, but _this_ is what people say.
1st-Jul-2011 12:29 am (UTC)
I am also prone to forgetting grammar when I speak-at least occasionally. But I have seen and heard people say worse. It seems worse when they are in a position where I feel that they should "know better", because they hold a job (such as an English teacher) that requires a higher level of English skills.
1st-Jul-2011 04:04 pm (UTC)
I have also been known to flub... I usually (I hope) correct myself. Occasionally I will speak (or type) incorrectly on purpose, or carelessly, due to my surroundings. Were it not for her position as an English teacher I might have felt only mild scorn, which might have passed by now. (The one word that catches me out more often than not is "data" -- I've heard it used incorrectly more often than not, so using it correctly sounds odd.)
5th-Jul-2011 12:12 am (UTC)
I think that common usage is now "less" rather than "fewer" -- this seems to be true in all but the most rigorously-edited and old-fashioned writing.

Edited at 2011-07-05 12:12 am (UTC)
5th-Jul-2011 07:54 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure how to respond to that. My mouth opens, and either nothing comes out, or multiple things ("Really?", "Horrors!", "Aiiiii", "Since when??!?", "It CAN'T be") come out at once (which, of course, sounds like $*#$&@#).

Maybe I should just admit I'm a geezer, put my dentures in, shake my cane and tell all them dang (:-)) kids to get offa my lawn.

Thanks for the information. Aghast though I may be, I'll start paying more attention to the usage.
5th-Jul-2011 08:01 pm (UTC)
Aghast, aghast I tell you! Yup, ain't it awful?
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